God and Guns: The Bible's Perspective on Personal Ownership and Use of Weapons, and Related Matters

God's sword (the Word) and ours (the rifle), superimposed over the Bible.(c) 1996, 1997 David C. Treibs, sirdavid@ktc.com

This page contains verse by verse commentary for John 10 - Philippians, detailing what the Bible says about owning and using guns.

John 10:31-32
He resisted evil by arguing and talking. I'm not trying to negate the
"resist not evil," but trying to figure out what he ment.

John 10:35
The scriptures (OT) cannot be broken.
The OT is the word of God. JC himself said so. He also said the OT
cannot be broken. That must mean there is at least some validity to

John 10:39
Resisting evil by escaping.
Recall when he said resist not evil, and letting someone slap you, etc.
Apparently this and John 10:39 did not fit the requirements of those
statements for some reason. Both times it was more than just an insult
or a slap, it was a threat to his physical well-being. It also wasn't
his time (se said that at other times), it wasn't the way he planned to
die (we don't have much say in that matter, although we try to have a
say in the time, because we try to stay alive as long as possible, and
try to avoid all forms of dying), he hadn't yet fulfilled all the
scriptures (we can never quite say we have, because our work is never
fully accomplished--rescuing, salvation, etc).

John 12:13
A quote from Psalms 118:26, which, isn't that the one that also has those
militant verses? 7,10-14-16.

John 12:14-15
As it is written...quote of Zechariah 9:9. OT.

John 12:38-41
Prophecies about Christ. OT.

John 13:18
Scripture--prophecy of Christ, OT.

John 14:23
If a man loves me he will keep my words, not just the impressions he thinks
are from the Holy Spirit. Jesus said his word is truth (below--John

If we were able to prefectly percieve the truth through our feelings or
leadings, we wouln't need the Bible, but God knows the faultiness of our
perceptions of his will, so he says "study to show yourself approved" and the

John 15:25
Law--prophecy of Christ. OT.

John 17:12
Scripture--prophecy of Christ. OT.

John 17:17
see John 14:23.
Also, I think he refers to the OT with both the words "truth" and

John 18:10-11
Peter was carrying a sword--probably one of the ones Jesus told them to
obtain, Jesus hadn't told him not to, and he didn't say turn it in to the
police or throw it away or give it to the poor, like he said do with the
money, he said put it back in it's sheath, which Peter was wearing, which ment
keep it, presumably for later, more level headed use. Peter was a bit caught
up in the emotion of the moment, but Jesus didn't tell him since he was out
of control he couldn't own or ever again use a weapon, just cooled him off.
Crimes of passion and such.

John 18:10-11
Don't forget why he said what he did. He was to put up the sword to
drink the father's cup, ie to fulfill scripture and be the lamb to take
away the sins of the world. If he had fought, he would not have died for
our sins, and we'd be in trouble.

John 18:22-23
One of the few times when he was as a lamb to the slaughter who opened
not his mouth, he resists evil, and he does not turn his cheek.
Recall he said if someone smites your cheek, turn the other. This time
he didn't. Almost everything done to him was illegal, yet for all the
other illegalities he opened not his mouth. I can find no good reason
why he did this time. Maybe simply because he had said turn your cheek,
and he wanted us to know that there are occasions when it's proper to
not turn the cheek.
Perhaps it was to make the point that he had done no wrong, since they
were questioning his doctrine, and in saying what he did, he made the
point he was totally innocent in his doctrine, and that they were the
ones who were wrong.

John 18:23
He chided him for hitting him. Doesn't sound like he took it with no
resistence, telling the man he had no legal right to hit him. It doesn't
sound like he turned his cheek.

John 18:36
No pacifism, no opposing using weapons and fighting and likely killing.
He didn't say it was wrong to fight. He just said it wasn't the time,
place, etc. We are citizens of both heaven and USA. If not, then being
in the armed forces would also be wrong. Can't have it both ways.
Pacifism would be the only way, not just in the matter of self defense.
Did Paul say he wasn't a citizen of this world or something like that,
even though he was a Roman citizen? He used his Roman citizenship for
his self-defense against being beaten without being condemned. While he
was not but a pilgrim and a stranger, he also used his citizenship for
his personal defense and for the spread of the gospel (anything that
kept him alive contributed to the spread of the gospel, because if he
was alive, he could spread the gospel.) It was like a dual
citizenship--both of heaven and of earth. He didn't disavow or renounce
his citizenship on earth. After all, God created nations along with
families and the like. They are one of the institutions of God for
forwarding his kingdom and word and principles for life and success, and
for setting back evil and harm and the devil. Also, Paul never exercised
any self defense besides non-violent type that I can think of, except he
did fight with beasts. But there are many others who did. Have to view
the whole Bible, not just a few incidents.

John 18:36
If his kingdom were of this world, then he _would_ fight, but that was
not why he came. He will fight when he comes back to rule and reign, and
he will slaughter his enemies.
Also, those who say they are following Christ's example are not the lamb
to take away the sins of the world, and are citizens of this country,
unless they (also, they probably are not following Christ's example of
not being married, of having no place to lay his head, of personally
carrying no money, etc) renounce their citizenship and all rights and
privileges thereof, and they can also renounce the responsibilities
thereof, to fight for their country, but they are still not relieved of
their responsibility to defend their families and the innocent.

Acts 2:16-21
Coming of the Holy Ghost prophesied in the OT.

Acts 2:25-28
Prophecy of Christ. OT.

Acts 2:29-31
Prophecy of Christ. OT.

Acts 2:34-35
Prophecy of Christ. OT.

Acts 3:18
Prophecy of Christ. OT.

Acts 3:21-25
Prophecy of Christ. OT.
21 Apparently the prophets are valid still, at the very least to the
extent that they deal with Christ, _and_ their prophecies of his return
and the restoration of things, etc.

Acts 4:11
Prophecy of Christ. OT.

Acts 4:24
Reference to creation, ie, OT.

Acts 4:25
Prophecy of Christ. OT.

Acts 5:26
The authorities took in the apostles carefully so they wouldn't be stoned, the
armed condition of the people, and the people's willingness to use their
weapons against injustice restrained the actions of the gov't. Bible doesn't
say this good or bad, just the way it is, that an armed and willing populace
can restrain even a tyrannical abusive government, at least to the extent that
the people are just, righteous, knowledgeable in justice, and so on. An
immoral bunch wouldn't be much of a hindrance to a tyrannical gov't. At
least in small, isolated instances, perhaps like a jury could do, they
can't repeal the evil laws, but they can bring justice to one

The people were armed and kept the tyranny somewhat in check--it didn't
prevent it because the people and the gover't were corrupt, and only a
righteous people and gov't can prevent tyranny

Acts 6:58
The available weaponry was abused, but that did't make it's availability
bad. (Stoning of Stephen.)

Acts 7:2-53
? OT? ?Prophecy of Christ. OT.?
24 He did the right thing in standing against wrong, but perhaps in the
wrong way--he wasn't wise in how he did it, no one supported him, the
constitution wasn't on his side, he hadn't build up a cadre of
supporters and like-minded people, he didn't conceal what he did, maybe
(God didn't want to use his method, he wanted to glorify himself,
demolish the reputation of the Egyptian gods, wipe out Egypt, and cause
the Israelites to fear God and listen to him, and listen to and respect
Moses. God's method accomplished that and more. Moses' did none of them
and less.) he overdid it and shouldn't have killed the Egyptian, just
stopped him from what he was doing.
25 He just figured they'd understand. He didn't prepare his own side
ahead of time so they knew what was going on, he hadn't explained to
them and given to them the understanding of who he was (their deliverer)
or why he was doing what he was trying to do (deliver them).
34 This is an instance where God gives direct instructions in what a
person was to do to save the oppressed. In other cases, we simply are to
act on principles--to do whatever (wisely!) we can however we can, and
not wait for any voices from the clouds (besides, if we do hear voices,
it's the devil, last night's pizza, schitzophrenia, or delusional
38 God's word is still lively in the OT.
41 This is a mistake, to worship the works of our hands, be it idols,
guns, our works, etc, instead of God.

Acts 8:1,3-4
Escaping and hiding is what they did. A low level of resistance.
Referring to the scriptures (OT) to make a point (huh? where is the ref
to the OT?) I guess "the word" (v4) included OT scriptures
about Christ.

Acts 8:32-33
Prophecy of Christ. OT.

Acts 9:25
Escape is one of the least violent means of resisting evil, but it is
nevertheless resistance. Call it passive, but that's not entirely correct,
because passive means to give oneself over to whatever forces are acting upon
you, and escaping is not giving yourself over to the forces.

Acts 9:25
Different levels of resistence. Paul (saul) escaped in a basket at night, he
did not meekly submit to the will of those who were persecuting him for
righteousness' sake. He probably broke several laws.

Acts 9:29-30
Escaping persecution for righteousness sake--Jesus said we would have
persecutions, but Paul escaped it several times--does this mean he was
avoiding God's will? No, no more than when the saints at Jerusalem fled
and God used it to spread the gospel abroad.
Find all the verses dealing with "you will have persecutions," etc to
show that it is God's will for us, but also that it's OK to escape it,
and then show the parallel, that it's OK to resist evil of all sorts in
several different levels of resistance, perhaps using different OT and
NT examples of resisting evil.

Acts 13:17-24
Prophecy of Christ. OT.
Using OT historical scripture to make a NT point.

Acts 13:33-37,41,47
? A commandment and prophecy from the OT ??

Acts 14:6

Acts 15:14-18
OT principle: the Gentiles will seek after God, who will call them.

Acts 17:2-3
2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and
three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
3 Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have
suffered, and risen again from the dead; and that this
Jesus, whom I preach unto you, is Christ.

Acts 17:2-3
Scriptures about Jesus Christ.

Acts 23:18
See note in Bible (do all you can do, etc)

Acts 23:18
Maybe he never used violence as a means, but does that mean there is something
wrong with violence? This is a question to ask. Studying other passages,
including Jesus telling his disciples to carry weapons, seem to indicate
nothing is wrong.

Someone wanted to kill Paul before he got to Rome, Paul did all he could to
stop him, even though God himself had told Paul he was going to go to Rome, he
did all in his power to do what he could. He didn't doubt God in the least, he
did know that he had to do whatever he could, and he knew that that wasn't
being doubtful of God, instead, it was believing that God would thwart the
enemy by whatever means necessary.
Paul also evangelized, even though he knew God's word would be
disseminated. Totally trusting God did not eliminate the need and the
urgency for action, even drastic action on his part.

Acts 24:14
Believe ALL OT things (of course, he is also a Jew, and for the Gentiles
they decided on just a few basic law-related things they had to
follow--fornication, things strangled.)

Acts 24:25
He must have used OT scripture to discuss these OT items that are not
related to prophecies of Christ.

Acts 25:8
He resisted their evil.

Acts 25:9-11
He is smartly waging a legal battle, avoiding ending up in
Jerusalem--waging a legal battle is OK, as is arguing a defense for his
life, and why is it people find it so hard to accept that a physical
battle is also OK?

Acts 26:22-23
Referring to OT prophecies of Christ.

Acts 28:17
He violated nothing in the law, but remember 24:14.

Acts 28:23
Prophecy of Christ. OT, and the law of Moses, sacrifices, etc, which is
a foreshadowing of Christ.

Romans 1:1-3
OT reference--something about the gospel and the lineage of Christ.

Romans 1:20-32
The cause(s) of sin, including crime (depredations by criminals,
violence, robbery, etc).
1. 20-23 Rejecting God, or bringing him down to our level (stripping him
of his righteousness, power, etc).
2. God gives them up to sexual wrongness of every sort including
2. 24-28 1 and 2 sort of feed into each other 24-25 and each one makes
the other more depraved which makes them more ungodly, and these 2 in
turn make #3 worse.
3. 28-32 This brings all sorts of evil, including:
--murder (including abortion) and crimes committed using weapons,
--breakdown of the family (disobedient),
--cold-heartedness toward people (Jeffrey Dahmer, etc),
--theft (from envy, etc),
--liars and contract breakers and politicians who don't follow the
Constitution (covenant breakers) and who are corrupt (all of Congress,
24-25 Sexual depravity also leads to rejection of God and to all the
evil of 28-32.
Therefore, if you wish for people to commit evil, you can take several
1. Cause them to reject God, or else bring him down to the level of some
beast, or just strip away all his attributes and his glory (glorify him
not as God), which will lead to #2.
2. Encourage sexual activity apart from God's way, and it will lead to
more of #1 (v.24-25).
These two are precisely what the public school system is all
about--teaching evolution and by other means (music, peers, etc)
destroying the true image of God (or just making him irrelevant and
leaving him out), or reducing him from whom he really is, and
(2) Introducing sexual activity, and deviance (project 10, etc). These
will lead to what these secular humanistic, new age Marxists want:
breakdown of the family so children will disobey and not follow parents
but instead follow the evil school indoctrination--the problem is,
breakdown of the family also leads to lots of other problems.
Murder--ie abortion--because of their condom programs, etc--the problem
is, it least to other types of murder as will, including Kevorkian and
coldness toward people (without natural affections)..
Covenant breaking and rejection (through re-interpretation, etc of the
Constitution and American and world history.
Theft--ie socialism==but this brings on other sorts of theft and robbery
as will; including armed robbery (and cheating).
This also plainly tells us that crime is not caused by objects but
because society 1. has rejected God, and 2. is sexually depraved, and of
course, for other Biblical reasons--evil doers are not speedily dealt
with, etc.

Romans 3:2
Oracles of God = OT.

Romans 3:10-18
OT quotes Psalms 10:7, Is 59:7, Psalms 36:1.

Romans 4:1-3
Faith saves, not the law--OT ref.

Romans 4:6-8
Faith of David, OT ref.

Romans 4:9-13,16-24
Salvation in the OT was also by faith, the works of the law came after
faith. All those OT fellows who did physical exploits for God did it in
faith and as a result of faith, faith without works is dead.

Romans 9:7
Who are the true Jews--OT quote.

Romans 9:9-13
Who are the true Jews--OT quote.

Romans 9:15
Characteristic of God is mercy--OT quote.

Romans 9:17
Characteristic of God is mercy--OT quote.
Scripture = OT.

Romans 9:25-29
Who are the children of Israel--OT quote.
29 Quoting OT prophets.

Romans 9:33
Prophecy of Christ--OT quote.
Quoting OT.

Romans 10:11
Scripture = OT.

Romans 10:15
Praising those who spread the gospel--OT quote.
"it is written," OT, which Jesus quoted to resist the devil.

Romans 10:16
Jews have not obeyed the gospel--OT quote.

Romans 10:19-21
Gentiles and Jews, OT verses.

Romans 11:2-5
Example from the OT--OT quote.

Romans 11:8-10
?? same as below?

Romans 11:16-17
OT allusion (??) to holy objects touching things?

Romans 11:26-27
Prophecy of Israel's future salvation--OT quote.

Romans 12:10-13
Here's a list of kindness, love, servant's heart (preferring others),
serving God, rejoicing, hope, patience, tribulation, prayer, giving to
the needy, hospitality, etc, etc, and right in the middle is "not
slothful in business." What does that have to do with the gospel? Not
much, directly, but it is part of life which we are not supposed to
abandon. Also, if we are good in business, those we deal with will be
impressed with out hard work, honesty, entrepaneuership, creativity,
persistence, etc, and that will be a witness to them for Christ. Also,
that will generate capital for the spreading of the gospel. That is how
many things are. No, that's not why we are here, but those all have a
bearing to some degree on the gospel, and we can use them one way or
another for the gospel and /or for the kingdom of God, by indirectly
making it able to spread (having money), by making sure it is not
stopped by gov't (running for office, voting, organizing, writing laws,
etc), etc.

ADD Romans 13:1

Render unto Caesar: our duty as a citizen is to do our duty as citizens:
vote, run the gov't, etc, ie, be involved in it!!

Romans 13:2
There are many examples of Godly men in the Bible, both OT and NT who
"resisted the power," and did so with God's blessings and help.
Therefore, it is not possible that this is a blanket, absolute
statement, because we must search the scriptures, and compare scripture
with scripture.
Paul himself was not always subject to the higher powers--and when had
had the opportunity--he appealed either 1. to a higher power (Caesar),
2. or to a higher law (against slapping him or imprisoning him, etc 3.
if I remember correctly, to God's unwritten laws. But maybe not on
number 3.
Peter did say we ought to obey God rather than men, although I don't
think that's quite the same thing as appealing to God's higher law.
In our country we have our beautiful history, Constitution, Dec of Ind,
and so on to appeal to when all else fails, and at the very least, US
citizens because of these things, have the right to and obligation to
disobey unconstitutional "powers" and "rulers".
Of course, our Const and Dec of Ind were based on the notion that these
things were universal truths available to everyone, and they were simply
writing down what was self-evidently true.

Romans 13:3-4
Rulers bear the sword to kill the wicked and to make evil deeds scarce, but
don't forget we are obligated to wipe out the worshippers of Molech, or else
God will wipe us out. Wonder what you do when the gov't leads in the
worship of Molech? Ever heard of Ehud and his dagger? The obligation to
destroy evil and protect the innocent doesn't end with gov't, it begins
with us as individuals, and gov't is later in the chain.
4 Whatever the gov't is against is evil if (divine right of kings) is
true--including Christianity, being pro-life, etc.
If John MacArthur is correct (Divine Right), this verse means whatever
gov't does is good and right, but I know that's false. Rulers, also, are
answerable to God's laws, and since (Dec of Ind) our gov't rules with
the consent of the governed, if they don't do what's right, we have to
right to remove the old ones and set up new guards of our liberties.

1 The powers that be are ordained of God. Certainly they are, but what
does it mean, ordained? The family is also ordained of God, but that
doesn't mean that every act of a family is ordained of God, for example,
a father may molest his children, and he could say, hey, well, I'm the
head of my home and they are all supposed to obey me; but he is not
ordained to sin. The church is also ordained of God, but that doesn't
mean that every act or doctrine of the church is ordained of God--I
doubt if anyone thinks the heresies of the various apostate branches of
the church are ordained of God, neither are the likes of the
Inquisition, the Crusades, and what not. Likewise, while government in
general may be ordained of God, every act of government and every
government official and even each individual government is not ordained
of God. They may well be, and very often are completely contrary to
everything which is Biblical and Godly and true and good, and we have a
duty to deal with them as such, and restore righteousness by whatever
Biblical means necessary.

Romans 14:17
It is also not guns. There are just a means to an end, and are tools for
us to do God's work: forwarding the kingdom of God and resisting the
kingdom of the devil and the world and sin (rape, murder, theft,

Romans 14:20
For guns destroy not the work of God--don't flash your AR if it will
offend your brother or harm a weak Christian.

Romans 14:21
Don't eat in his presence if it will harm his faith, and don't discuss
or use guns in his presence in an offensive manner (unless necessary)
for the same reasons. Naturally, he does need to learn God's truth on
the matter. We need to share the truth in love.

Romans 15:3
Prophecy of Christ--OT quote.

Romans 15:4
OT= for learning, patience, comfort, hope.

Romans 15:8
Christ came to confirm the promise made unto the Jews' forefathers--OT

Romans 15:9-12
Prophecies of Christ. "Written," "again."

Romans 15:21
OT quote about Christ.

Romans 15:27
IT is sometimes a duty to minister and help people carnally as well as
spiritually--the NT isn't just about spiritual things, but whenever the
need arises, it is our duty to deal with the non-spiritual matters and
meet the needs of our brothers in Christ--defense and safety is a
non-spiritual need, if it is possible at all to differentiate between
the two.

Romans 15:31
Resisting evil by prayer.

Romans 16:1-2
Mentions the need to conduct non-spiritual business.

Romans 16:25-26
The mystery of Christ is now made evident by the scriptures (OT =
scriptures) of the prophets.

1 Corinthians 1:31
"As it is written", OT quote?
Our joys are in Christ. Not our victories, struggles, battles, guns,
etc--we may have joy from them, but our highest joy and calling is

1 Corinthians 2:9
"As it is written", OT quote?

1 Corinthians 3:19-20
OT quotes--God is wise, man is foolish

1 Corinthians 5:5
There may be times when God isn't interested in preserving us or keeping
us safe from harm--if we give ourselves to sin, he may allow harm or
even work to bring it about to bring us to repentence, he may prevent us
from successfully defending ourselves either physically and/or
spiritually, or he may allow harm to us as he did with Paul to keep him
(thorn in side) humbled, or as in Paul's case, just in the usual course
of events while serving Christ (beaten, stoned, etc), or so we can be a
witness to others (that was one of the things that occurred when Stephen
was stoned), to accomplish a task (Jesus came to be a sacrifice, it took
his death and suffering to accomplish it), to comform us to his image
and make us more Christ like he may do that to knock off the rough
spots, weaknesses, etc, or it may just be he wants to give us more depth
of character, cause us to have our focus more on him, to make us
stronger (hard times toughen you up), to give us experiences (ie,
suffering) similar to others so we can be more empathetic to them and
help them through their suffering, to give us more hate for sin and evil
and the devil and the world and how these all work together to destroy
and despoil and corrupt all that God has made to be good.
The bottom line is, our physical safety and security is decidedly and
emphatically not God's highest calling for our lives, any more than us
being happy is his highest priority for us, although it is part of

1 Corinthians 6:16
OT ref--marriage.

1 Corinthians 7:19
What commandments? OT ones?
This was written to non-Jews. See other refs in this book (Corinth) to
the law.

1 Corinthians 9:7
Mentions warfare as just another part of business, just like planting,
reaping, tending flocks, eating and drinking.

1 Corinthians 9:8-9
Quotes the law and says it was for our sake that at least this one part
was given--and this law (even though Christ fulfilled the law) is still
important now--and the OT still has bearing on our lives, and the
principles contained in it are valid and important. He says it was
"written for our sakes..no doubt"
This is also important because it points out those doing the work of
Christ have to take care of their physical needs--in fact, while the
oxen is treading the corn, he munches. The physical things of life go
along together with the spiritual things. Just like you do Christ's
work, go to a job, work around the house, take care of your children,
defend your family and country from enemies foreign and domestic
(tyrants, etc).

1 Corinthians 9:11
The spiritual and the carnal (physical) go together--you can't live on
spiritual things alone--this includes eating, drinking (4) and being
married (5), and being supported in return for preaching (6) and in
general, reaping the physical/carnal benefits of the work you do (7),
and the law says the same thing (9). And so, the kingdom of God is not
meat nor drink,, but they are still very much part of God's plan for his
people, and meat, drink, and other carnal things are part of carrying
out Christ's commands and are part of spreading the gospel--which is
precisely what Paul is pointing out here in some detail. (13) Is a
further example from the OT where the spiritual is supported by the
physical, and (14) just as the OT priests live, so it is with the NT
gospel preachers.
God prospered their physical/carnal efforts with physical/carnal things,
and God set things up so the priests would benefit from them. Just like
God can prosper other physical things and put them to use for his people
and for his kingdom, including weapons and physical force.

1 Corinthians 9:13
A further OT example, showing that the OT examples contain examples that
we are to follow, at least in the principles embodied in them.

1 Corinthians 10:4,6-9,11-12
The things of the OT were our examples, in this case, so we should not
lust, commit idolatry, fornication (10 Commandments), tempt Christ
(9,4), murmur. Again he says they were for our examples (12) because of
what happened to them?? watch out lest the same happen to you.

1 Corinthians 10:13
Doing our part to receive God's promise--God makes a way for us to escape
temptation, we have to take it, or else we will fall, and it will be no fault
but out own if we fall, because we failed to do our part that God left to us;
Doing what his word says = accepting the provisions he has made for us. If we
do not accept his provisions, we are rejecting his help, and will fall.
(huh?) Displeasing to God, harmful to us--unless the benefit to his
kingdom is greater than the harm to us.

1 Corinthians 14:8
Ref to war as if it were a normal part of life and no big deal and
nothing for NT people to avoid like the plague.
TRUMPET--another war word.
It is basically a continuation of the OT references, comparisons,
analogies, etc to war in the OT, it was part of their lives, and no big

1 Corinthians 14:34-35
Another principle of the law that is still in effect.
This has nothing to do with the gospel. (Which is to say, there are
things in the NT that are not directly related to the gospel. Some would
argue that only things related to the gospel are our business any more,
and that excludes anything to do with weapons and their use, but it is
clear that there are things in the NT that are not directly connected to
the gospel, although indirectly, everything we do is related to it, and
we can't forget Eccl, which says at the end that to enjoy our labors is
God's will for us, and those labors under the sun aren't just spreading
the gospel.)

1 Corinthians 16:1
Here is something the entire church was doing that was not related to
"spiritual" things--they were caring for the physical needs of the

1 Corinthians 16:13
Quoting the Philistines when they were fighting Israel, admonishing them
to not act like women, but to fight and not be shaken/upset/disquieted
about the enemy's advantage.
A counter argument might be that, yes, he was quoting soldiers fighting
a physical battle, but now they were "fighting" for the gospel, they had
exchanged their physical swords for spiritual ones.

2 Corinthians 1:8-11
Remember it is God who rescues from death, and prayer is the most
powerful means, and without prayer and God's help everything else is
useless. In this case no use of force is mentioned--it was all God's
Even when we are completely out numbered, out gunned, surrounded, out of
bullets, the enemy has sworn to take no prisoners, we have no escape or
hope, then we learn to trust in God and to surrender ourselves and our
futures and our outcomes to God--this might come in handy when we are
under attack from all sides and above and it all looks lost--we cry out
to God for mercy and fight valiantly for God, our homes, our lands, our
wives, and our children (Neh).
You cannot use one part of scripture to negate another part of scripture
unless the circumstances of the negation are clearly pointed out, else
you are saying that the scriptures are contradictory--which is not true.
Instead, you must harmonize what scripture says, and compare scripture
with scripture to develop the complete and accurate meaning, and the
whole picture, instead of just one little part.

2 Corinthians 11:20-21
List criticism and such, but not bodily harm, not really relevant, it seems,
but might because so don't forget persecutions of Paul, who didn't fight.
cheek turning.
20 "bondage" = slavery, servitude.

2 Corinthians 11:33
Escaping--one of the lowest levels of resistance to violent tyranny.

2 Corinthians 13:1
OT quote--using a principle of the OT to make a point that is presently

Galatians 3:11,13,16,22
OT quote--a verse that is still true
22 scripture (??)

Galatians 4:21-31
Uses the OT to make a point about the law--even though he is speaking to
those who desire to be under the law and is using the scripture for
their benefit, it's still a valid point for those who don't want to be
under the law. The interesting thing is he makes a valid point that is
true today by using the law that is not valid today--and yet the examples
are there for us, and the principles are still true for us.

Galatians 5:1-6
These people were trying to use circumcision to obtain grace and
salvation, apparently.
Nobody I know is trying to use weapons to obtain salvation or grace,
except maybe for physical "salvation" as David speak of.

Galatians 5:14
(Leviticus 19:18, Matthew 7:12,22:39)
This is an OT quote and Jesus said it also, and this, if done properly,
contains all the law, and if I will defend myself, I must also defend my
neighbor. If I would do it for myself, I must do it for my neighbor.

Galatians 5:8
He is not saying if you do things for your flesh (body) you will reap
corruption, ie protect yourself, but if you sow to the flesh (sinful
nature, old man, etc), which he was talking about in Galatians

Galatians 6:1-5
(esp 2,5) Whatever is burdening our brother, we should help him, but, a
man needs to prove his work, so in that sense the man needs to bear his
own burden. If defense is included in this, we should defend our
brother, but also the brother should be able to defend himself. But
perhaps that is taking it a little too far.

Galatians 6:10
If we have the opportunity we should do good for everyone, esp brothers.
If it is in our power, we MUST do it. Now, "good" does not include just
"spiritual" things, but includes food and drink and other things like

Philippians 1:29
Our lot is to suffer for Christ's sake--not sure how to reconcile this
with the other; we can be heavily armed and still suffer a lot for
Christ. The Jews of Esther's time suffered for Christ's sake (the devil
wanted to wipe them all out so Christ couldn't come) (they wept and were
sad and full of anguish, then they had to exert themselves a great deal
to kill all those people) and yet they were heavily armed and vigorously
defended themselves and other innocent people (Jews, in this case).

Philippians 2:3-11
It is easy, being armed, having some power and being strong, to be cocky
or proud or have an attitude like Rambo or like any of the tough guy
movie characters, who have no humility. We are to remember we are
humbled servants (let thy servants fight, go take off his head, etc),
that the glory goes to God, that God will likewise exalt us (later) if
we humble ourselves to him now. That does not mean (hope this book will
convey more than just what the Bible says about weapons, but also what
our attitude is supposed to be, with or without them: a servant's heart,
to serve others in humility, in submission to God, etc) we humble
ourselves or submit ourselves before evil, although it does seem that
that happened sometimes in the scripture.
Perhaps that is the crux, we don't have to submit to evil. We don't
submit to the evil of sickness, if we have medicine, and yet we are
often sick, and commend ourselves into God's hands--and still resist the
best we are able.
4 Must help others, love and defend neighbor and brethren as self.

Philippians 3:3-7
We have no confidence in the flesh, unlike the TV/movie gun-toting
heros, our confidence, hope, trust is in God, not ourselves or our guns
or our abilities and talents, all of which were given to us by God.

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