God and Guns: The Bible's Perspective on Personal Ownership and Use of Weapons, and Related Matters
(c) 1996, 1997 David C. Treibs, firstname.lastname@example.org
This page contains verse by verse commentary for John 10 - Philippians, detailing what the Bible says about owning and using guns.
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you
from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
He resisted evil by arguing and talking. I'm not trying to negate the
"resist not evil," but trying to figure out what he ment.
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came,
and the scripture cannot be broken;
The scriptures (OT) cannot be broken.
The OT is the word of God. JC himself said so. He also said the OT
cannot be broken. That must mean there is at least some validity to
39. Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped
out of their hand,
Resisting evil by escaping.
Recall when he said resist not evil, and letting someone slap you, etc.
Apparently this and John 10:39 did not fit the requirements of those
statements for some reason. Both times it was more than just an insult
or a slap, it was a threat to his physical well-being. It also wasn't
his time (se said that at other times), it wasn't the way he planned to
die (we don't have much say in that matter, although we try to have a
say in the time, because we try to stay alive as long as possible, and
try to avoid all forms of dying), he hadn't yet fulfilled all the
scriptures (we can never quite say we have, because our work is never
fully accomplished--rescuing, salvation, etc).
13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet
him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed [is] the King of Israel
that cometh in the name of the Lord.
A quote from Psalms 118:26, which, isn't that the one that also has those
militant verses? 7,10-14-16.
14 And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon;
as it is written,
15 Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh,
sitting on an ass's colt.
As it is written...quote of Zechariah 9:9. OT.
38 That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be
fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our
report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed?
39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias
40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart;
that they should not see with [their] eyes, nor understand
with [their] heart, and be converted, and I should heal
41 These things said Esaias, when he saw his glory, and
spake of him.
Prophecies about Christ. OT.
18. I speak not of you all: I know whom I have chosen: but
that the scripture may be fulfilled, He that eateth bread
with me hath lifted up his heel against me.
Scripture--prophecy of Christ, OT.
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he
will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will
come unto him, and make our abode with him.
If a man loves me he will keep my words, not just the impressions he thinks
are from the Holy Spirit. Jesus said his word is truth (below--John
If we were able to prefectly percieve the truth through our feelings or
leadings, we wouln't need the Bible, but God knows the faultiness of our
perceptions of his will, so he says "study to show yourself approved" and the
25 But [this cometh to pass], that the word might be
fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me
without a cause.
Law--prophecy of Christ. OT.
12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy
name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of
them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture
might be fulfilled.
Scripture--prophecy of Christ. OT.
17. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
see John 14:23.
Also, I think he refers to the OT with both the words "truth" and
10 Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the
high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The
servant's name was Malchus.
11 Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the
sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not
Peter was carrying a sword--probably one of the ones Jesus told them to
obtain, Jesus hadn't told him not to, and he didn't say turn it in to the
police or throw it away or give it to the poor, like he said do with the
money, he said put it back in it's sheath, which Peter was wearing, which ment
keep it, presumably for later, more level headed use. Peter was a bit caught
up in the emotion of the moment, but Jesus didn't tell him since he was out
of control he couldn't own or ever again use a weapon, just cooled him off.
Crimes of passion and such.
Don't forget why he said what he did. He was to put up the sword to
drink the father's cup, ie to fulfill scripture and be the lamb to take
away the sins of the world. If he had fought, he would not have died for
our sins, and we'd be in trouble.
22 And when he had thus spoken, one of the officers which
stood by struck Jesus with the palm of his hand, saying,
Answerest thou the high priest so?
23 Jesus answered him, If I have spoken evil, bear witness
of the evil: but if well, why smitest thou me?
One of the few times when he was as a lamb to the slaughter who opened
not his mouth, he resists evil, and he does not turn his cheek.
Recall he said if someone smites your cheek, turn the other. This time
he didn't. Almost everything done to him was illegal, yet for all the
other illegalities he opened not his mouth. I can find no good reason
why he did this time. Maybe simply because he had said turn your cheek,
and he wanted us to know that there are occasions when it's proper to
not turn the cheek.
Perhaps it was to make the point that he had done no wrong, since they
were questioning his doctrine, and in saying what he did, he made the
point he was totally innocent in his doctrine, and that they were the
ones who were wrong.
He chided him for hitting him. Doesn't sound like he took it with no
resistence, telling the man he had no legal right to hit him. It doesn't
sound like he turned his cheek.
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my
kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight,
that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my
kingdom not from hence.
No pacifism, no opposing using weapons and fighting and likely killing.
He didn't say it was wrong to fight. He just said it wasn't the time,
place, etc. We are citizens of both heaven and USA. If not, then being
in the armed forces would also be wrong. Can't have it both ways.
Pacifism would be the only way, not just in the matter of self defense.
Did Paul say he wasn't a citizen of this world or something like that,
even though he was a Roman citizen? He used his Roman citizenship for
his self-defense against being beaten without being condemned. While he
was not but a pilgrim and a stranger, he also used his citizenship for
his personal defense and for the spread of the gospel (anything that
kept him alive contributed to the spread of the gospel, because if he
was alive, he could spread the gospel.) It was like a dual
citizenship--both of heaven and of earth. He didn't disavow or renounce
his citizenship on earth. After all, God created nations along with
families and the like. They are one of the institutions of God for
forwarding his kingdom and word and principles for life and success, and
for setting back evil and harm and the devil. Also, Paul never exercised
any self defense besides non-violent type that I can think of, except he
did fight with beasts. But there are many others who did. Have to view
the whole Bible, not just a few incidents.
If his kingdom were of this world, then he _would_ fight, but that was
not why he came. He will fight when he comes back to rule and reign, and
he will slaughter his enemies.
Also, those who say they are following Christ's example are not the lamb
to take away the sins of the world, and are citizens of this country,
unless they (also, they probably are not following Christ's example of
not being married, of having no place to lay his head, of personally
carrying no money, etc) renounce their citizenship and all rights and
privileges thereof, and they can also renounce the responsibilities
thereof, to fight for their country, but they are still not relieved of
their responsibility to defend their families and the innocent.
16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God,
I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons
and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall
see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour
out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in
the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon
into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord
21 And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever shall call
on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Coming of the Holy Ghost prophesied in the OT.
25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord
always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I
should not be moved:
26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad;
moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:
27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither
wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt
make me full of joy with thy countenance.
Prophecy of Christ. OT.
29 Men [and] brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the
patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his
sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had
sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins,
according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of
Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his
flesh did see corruption.
Prophecy of Christ. OT.
34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he
saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
Prophecy of Christ. OT.
18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the
mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he
hath so fulfilled.
Prophecy of Christ. OT.
21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of
restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the
mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall
the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like
unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall
say unto you.
23 And it shall come to pass, [that] every soul, which
will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among
24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that
follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold
of these days.
25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the
covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto
Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth
Prophecy of Christ. OT.
21 Apparently the prophets are valid still, at the very least to the
extent that they deal with Christ, _and_ their prophecies of his return
and the restoration of things, etc.
11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you
builders, which is become the head of the corner.
Prophecy of Christ. OT.
24 And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to
God with one accord, and said, Lord, thou [art] God, which
hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in
Reference to creation, ie, OT.
25 Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said, Why
did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things?
Prophecy of Christ. OT.
26. Then went the captain with the officers, and brought
them without violence: for they feared the people, lest they
should have been stoned.
The authorities took in the apostles carefully so they wouldn't be stoned, the
armed condition of the people, and the people's willingness to use their
weapons against injustice restrained the actions of the gov't. Bible doesn't
say this good or bad, just the way it is, that an armed and willing populace
can restrain even a tyrannical abusive government, at least to the extent that
the people are just, righteous, knowledgeable in justice, and so on. An
immoral bunch wouldn't be much of a hindrance to a tyrannical gov't. At
least in small, isolated instances, perhaps like a jury could do, they
can't repeal the evil laws, but they can bring justice to one
The people were armed and kept the tyranny somewhat in check--it didn't
prevent it because the people and the gover't were corrupt, and only a
righteous people and gov't can prevent tyranny
The available weaponry was abused, but that did't make it's availability
bad. (Stoning of Stephen.)
2 And he said, Men, brethren, and fathers, hearken; The
God of glory appeared unto our father Abraham, when he was
in Mesopotamia, before he dwelt in Charran,
3 And said unto him, Get thee out of thy country, and from
thy kindred, and come into the land which I shall shew thee.
4 Then came he out of the land of the Chaldaeans, and
dwelt in Charran: and from thence, when his father was dead,
he removed him into this land, wherein ye now dwell.
5 And he gave him none inheritance in it, no, not [so much
as] to set his foot on: yet he promised that he would give
it to him for a possession, and to his seed after him, when
[as yet] he had no child.
6 And God spake on this wise, That his seed should sojourn
in a strange land; and that they should bring them into
bondage, and entreat [them] evil four hundred years.
7 And the nation to whom they shall be in bondage will I
judge, said God: and after that shall they come forth, and
serve me in this place.
8 And he gave him the covenant of circumcision: and so
[Abraham] begat Isaac, and circumcised him the eighth day;
and Isaac [begat] Jacob; and Jacob [begat] the twelve
9 And the patriarchs, moved with envy, sold Joseph into
Egypt: but God was with him,
10 And delivered him out of all his afflictions, and gave
him favour and wisdom in the sight of Pharaoh king of Egypt;
and he made him governor over Egypt and all his house.
11 Now there came a dearth over all the land of Egypt and
Chanaan, and great affliction: and our fathers found no
12 But when Jacob heard that there was corn in Egypt, he
sent out our fathers first.
13 And at the second [time] Joseph was made known to his
brethren; and Joseph's kindred was made known unto Pharaoh.
14 Then sent Joseph, and called his father Jacob to [him],
and all his kindred, threescore and fifteen souls.
15 So Jacob went down into Egypt, and died, he, and our
16 And were carried over into Sychem, and laid in the
sepulchre that Abraham bought for a sum of money of the sons
of Emmor [the father] of Sychem.
17. But when the time of the promise drew nigh, which God
had sworn to Abraham, the people grew and multiplied in
18 Till another king arose, which knew not Joseph.
19 The same dealt subtilly with our kindred, and evil
entreated our fathers, so that they cast out their young
children, to the end they might not live.
20 In which time Moses was born, and was exceeding fair,
and nourished up in his father's house three months:
21 And when he was cast out, Pharaoh's daughter took him
up, and nourished him for her own son.
22 And Moses was learned in all the wisdom of the
Egyptians, and was mighty in words and in deeds.
23 And when he was full forty years old, it came into his
heart to visit his brethren the children of Israel.
24 And seeing one [of them] suffer wrong, he defended
[him], and avenged him that was oppressed, and smote the
25 For he supposed his brethren would have understood how
that God by his hand would deliver them: but they understood
26 And the next day he shewed himself unto them as they
strove, and would have set them at one again, saying, Sirs,
ye are brethren; why do ye wrong one to another?
27 But he that did his neighbour wrong thrust him away,
saying, Who made thee a ruler and a judge over us?
28 Wilt thou kill me, as thou diddest the Egyptian
29 Then fled Moses at this saying, and was a stranger in
the land of Madian, where he begat two sons.
30. And when forty years were expired, there appeared to
him in the wilderness of mount Sina an angel of the Lord in
a flame of fire in a bush.
31 When Moses saw [it], he wondered at the sight: and as
he drew near to behold [it], the voice of the Lord came unto
32 [Saying], I [am] the God of thy fathers, the God of
Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. Then
Moses trembled, and durst not behold.
33 Then said the Lord to him, Put off thy shoes from thy
feet: for the place where thou standest is holy ground.
34 I have seen, I have seen the affliction of my people
which is in Egypt, and I have heard their groaning, and am
come down to deliver them. And now come, I will send thee
35 This Moses whom they refused, saying, Who made thee a
ruler and a judge? the same did God send [to be] a ruler and
a deliverer by the hand of the angel which appeared to him
in the bush.
36 He brought them out, after that he had shewed wonders
and signs in the land of Egypt, and in the Red sea, and in
the wilderness forty years.
37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of
Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you
of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.
38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness
with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and
[with] our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give
39 To whom our fathers would not obey, but thrust [him]
from them, and in their hearts turned back again into Egypt,
40 Saying unto Aaron, Make us gods to go before us: for
[as for] this Moses, which brought us out of the land of
Egypt, we wot not what is become of him.
41 And they made a calf in those days, and offered
sacrifice unto the idol, and rejoiced in the works of their
42. Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host
of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O
ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and
sacrifices [by the space of] forty years in the wilderness?
43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star
of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them:
and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.
44 Our fathers had the tabernacle of witness in the
wilderness, as he had appointed, speaking unto Moses, that
he should make it according to the fashion that he had seen.
45 Which also our fathers that came after brought in with
Jesus into the possession of the Gentiles, whom God drave
out before the face of our fathers, unto the days of David;
46 Who found favour before God, and desired to find a
tabernacle for the God of Jacob.
47 But Solomon built him an house.
48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with
hands; as saith the prophet,
49 Heaven [is] my throne, and earth [is] my footstool:
what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what [is]
the place of my rest?
50 Hath not my hand made all these things?
51. Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye
do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers [did], so
52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted?
and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming
of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and
53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels,
and have not kept [it].
? OT? ?Prophecy of Christ. OT.?
24 He did the right thing in standing against wrong, but perhaps in the
wrong way--he wasn't wise in how he did it, no one supported him, the
constitution wasn't on his side, he hadn't build up a cadre of
supporters and like-minded people, he didn't conceal what he did, maybe
(God didn't want to use his method, he wanted to glorify himself,
demolish the reputation of the Egyptian gods, wipe out Egypt, and cause
the Israelites to fear God and listen to him, and listen to and respect
Moses. God's method accomplished that and more. Moses' did none of them
and less.) he overdid it and shouldn't have killed the Egyptian, just
stopped him from what he was doing.
25 He just figured they'd understand. He didn't prepare his own side
ahead of time so they knew what was going on, he hadn't explained to
them and given to them the understanding of who he was (their deliverer)
or why he was doing what he was trying to do (deliver them).
34 This is an instance where God gives direct instructions in what a
person was to do to save the oppressed. In other cases, we simply are to
act on principles--to do whatever (wisely!) we can however we can, and
not wait for any voices from the clouds (besides, if we do hear voices,
it's the devil, last night's pizza, schitzophrenia, or delusional
38 God's word is still lively in the OT.
41 This is a mistake, to worship the works of our hands, be it idols,
guns, our works, etc, instead of God.
1. And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time
there was a great persecution against the church which was
at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout
the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles.
3 As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into
every house, and haling men and women committed [them] to
4. Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every
where preaching the word.
Escaping and hiding is what they did. A low level of resistance.
Referring to the scriptures (OT) to make a point (huh? where is the ref
to the OT?) I guess "the word" (v4) included OT scriptures
32 The place of the scripture which he read was this, He
was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb
before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:
33 In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who
shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the
Prophecy of Christ. OT.
25 Then the disciples took him by night, and let [him]
down by the wall in a basket.
Escape is one of the least violent means of resisting evil, but it is
nevertheless resistance. Call it passive, but that's not entirely correct,
because passive means to give oneself over to whatever forces are acting upon
you, and escaping is not giving yourself over to the forces.
Different levels of resistence. Paul (saul) escaped in a basket at night, he
did not meekly submit to the will of those who were persecuting him for
righteousness' sake. He probably broke several laws.
29 And he spake boldly in the name of the Lord Jesus, and
disputed against the Grecians: but they went about to slay
30 [Which] when the brethren knew, they brought him down
to Caesarea, and sent him forth to Tarsus.
Escaping persecution for righteousness sake--Jesus said we would have
persecutions, but Paul escaped it several times--does this mean he was
avoiding God's will? No, no more than when the saints at Jerusalem fled
and God used it to spread the gospel abroad.
Find all the verses dealing with "you will have persecutions," etc to
show that it is God's will for us, but also that it's OK to escape it,
and then show the parallel, that it's OK to resist evil of all sorts in
several different levels of resistance, perhaps using different OT and
NT examples of resisting evil.
17 The God of this people of Israel chose our fathers, and
exalted the people when they dwelt as strangers in the land
of Egypt, and with an high arm brought he them out of it.
18 And about the time of forty years suffered he their
manners in the wilderness.
19 And when he had destroyed seven nations in the land of
Chanaan, he divided their land to them by lot.
20 And after that he gave [unto them] judges about the
space of four hundred and fifty years, until Samuel the
21 And afterward they desired a king: and God gave unto
them Saul the son of Cis, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, by
the space of forty years.
22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them
David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and
said, I have found David the [son] of Jesse, a man after
mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will.
23 Of this man's seed hath God according to [his] promise
raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:
24 When John had first preached before his coming the
baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel.
Prophecy of Christ. OT.
Using OT historical scripture to make a NT point.
33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in
that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in
the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten
34 And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead,
[now] no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise,
I will give you the sure mercies of David.
35 Wherefore he saith also in another [psalm], Thou shalt
not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
36 For David, after he had served his own generation by
the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his
fathers, and saw corruption:
37 But he, whom God raised again, saw no corruption.
41 Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I
work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise
believe, though a man declare it unto you.
47 For so hath the Lord commanded us, [saying], I have set
thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be
for salvation unto the ends of the earth.
? A commandment and prophecy from the OT ??
6 They were ware of [it], and fled unto Lystra and Derbe,
cities of Lycaonia, and unto the region that lieth round
14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the
Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.
15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is
16 After this I will return, and will build again the
tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build
again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and
all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the
Lord, who doeth all these things.
18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of
OT principle: the Gentiles will seek after God, who will call them.
27 And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep,
and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and
would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had
2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and
three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
3 Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have
suffered, and risen again from the dead; and that this
Jesus, whom I preach unto you, is Christ.
Scriptures about Jesus Christ.
18 So he took him, and brought [him] to the chief captain,
and said, Paul the prisoner called me unto [him], and prayed
me to bring this young man unto thee, who hath something to
say unto thee.
See note in Bible (do all you can do, etc)
Maybe he never used violence as a means, but does that mean there is something
wrong with violence? This is a question to ask. Studying other passages,
including Jesus telling his disciples to carry weapons, seem to indicate
nothing is wrong.
Someone wanted to kill Paul before he got to Rome, Paul did all he could to
stop him, even though God himself had told Paul he was going to go to Rome, he
did all in his power to do what he could. He didn't doubt God in the least, he
did know that he had to do whatever he could, and he knew that that wasn't
being doubtful of God, instead, it was believing that God would thwart the
enemy by whatever means necessary.
Paul also evangelized, even though he knew God's word would be
disseminated. Totally trusting God did not eliminate the need and the
urgency for action, even drastic action on his part.
14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which
they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers,
believing all things which are written in the law and in the
Believe ALL OT things (of course, he is also a Jew, and for the Gentiles
they decided on just a few basic law-related things they had to
follow--fornication, things strangled.)
25 And as he reasoned of righteousness, temperance, and
judgment to come, Felix trembled, and answered, Go thy way
for this time; when I have a convenient season, I will call
He must have used OT scripture to discuss these OT items that are not
related to prophecies of Christ.
8 While he answered for himself, Neither against the law
of the Jews, neither against the temple, nor yet against
Caesar, have I offended any thing at all.
He resisted their evil.
9 But Festus, willing to do the Jews a pleasure, answered
Paul, and said, Wilt thou go up to Jerusalem, and there be
judged of these things before me?
10 Then said Paul, I stand at Caesar's judgment seat,
where I ought to be judged: to the Jews have I done no
wrong, as thou very well knowest.
11 For if I be an offender, or have committed any thing
worthy of death, I refuse not to die: but if there be none
of these things whereof these accuse me, no man may deliver
me unto them. I appeal unto Caesar.
He is smartly waging a legal battle, avoiding ending up in
Jerusalem--waging a legal battle is OK, as is arguing a defense for his
life, and why is it people find it so hard to accept that a physical
battle is also OK?
22 Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto
this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none
other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say
23 That Christ should suffer, [and] that he should be the
first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light
unto the people, and to the Gentiles.
Referring to OT prophecies of Christ.
17. And it came to pass, that after three days Paul called
the chief of the Jews together: and when they were come
together, he said unto them, Men [and] brethren, though I
have committed nothing against the people, or customs of our
fathers, yet was I delivered prisoner from Jerusalem into
the hands of the Romans.
He violated nothing in the law, but remember 24:14.
23. And when they had appointed him a day, there came many
to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and
testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning
Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the
prophets, from morning till evening.
Prophecy of Christ. OT, and the law of Moses, sacrifices, etc, which is
a foreshadowing of Christ.
1. Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called [to be] an
apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy
3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made
of the seed of David according to the flesh;
OT reference--something about the gospel and the lineage of Christ.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of
the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things
that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that
they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him]
not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their
imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an
image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and
fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through
the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped
and served the creature more than the Creator, who is
blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections:
for even their women did change the natural use into that
which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of
the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with
men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in
themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in [their]
knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do
those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication,
wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy,
murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters,
inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without
natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit
such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but
have pleasure in them that do them.
The cause(s) of sin, including crime (depredations by criminals,
violence, robbery, etc).
1. 20-23 Rejecting God, or bringing him down to our level (stripping him
of his righteousness, power, etc).
2. God gives them up to sexual wrongness of every sort including
2. 24-28 1 and 2 sort of feed into each other 24-25 and each one makes
the other more depraved which makes them more ungodly, and these 2 in
turn make #3 worse.
3. 28-32 This brings all sorts of evil, including:
--murder (including abortion) and crimes committed using weapons,
--breakdown of the family (disobedient),
--cold-heartedness toward people (Jeffrey Dahmer, etc),
--theft (from envy, etc),
--liars and contract breakers and politicians who don't follow the
Constitution (covenant breakers) and who are corrupt (all of Congress,
24-25 Sexual depravity also leads to rejection of God and to all the
evil of 28-32.
Therefore, if you wish for people to commit evil, you can take several
1. Cause them to reject God, or else bring him down to the level of some
beast, or just strip away all his attributes and his glory (glorify him
not as God), which will lead to #2.
2. Encourage sexual activity apart from God's way, and it will lead to
more of #1 (v.24-25).
These two are precisely what the public school system is all
about--teaching evolution and by other means (music, peers, etc)
destroying the true image of God (or just making him irrelevant and
leaving him out), or reducing him from whom he really is, and
(2) Introducing sexual activity, and deviance (project 10, etc). These
will lead to what these secular humanistic, new age Marxists want:
breakdown of the family so children will disobey and not follow parents
but instead follow the evil school indoctrination--the problem is,
breakdown of the family also leads to lots of other problems.
Murder--ie abortion--because of their condom programs, etc--the problem
is, it least to other types of murder as will, including Kevorkian and
coldness toward people (without natural affections)..
Covenant breaking and rejection (through re-interpretation, etc of the
Constitution and American and world history.
Theft--ie socialism==but this brings on other sorts of theft and robbery
as will; including armed robbery (and cheating).
This also plainly tells us that crime is not caused by objects but
because society 1. has rejected God, and 2. is sexually depraved, and of
course, for other Biblical reasons--evil doers are not speedily dealt
2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were
committed the oracles of God.
Oracles of God = OT.
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that
seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together
become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not
13 Their throat [is] an open sepulchre; with their tongues
they have used deceit; the poison of asps [is] under their
14 Whose mouth [is] full of cursing and bitterness:
15 Their feet [are] swift to shed blood:
16 Destruction and misery [are] in their ways:
17 And the way of peace have they not known:
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
OT quotes Psalms 10:7, Is 59:7, Psalms 36:1.
1. What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as
pertaining to the flesh, hath found?
2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath
[whereof] to glory; but not before God.
3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and
it was counted unto him for righteousness.
Faith saves, not the law--OT ref.
6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the
man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
7 [Saying], Blessed [are] they whose iniquities are
forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed [is] the man to whom the Lord will not impute
Faith of David, OT ref.
9. [Cometh] this blessedness then upon the circumcision
[only], or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that
faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.
10 How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision,
or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in
11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the
righteousness of the faith which [he had yet] being
uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that
believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness
might be imputed unto them also:
12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of
the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of
that faith of our father Abraham, which [he had] being [yet]
13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the
world, [was] not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the
law, but through the righteousness of faith.
16 Therefore [it is] of faith, that [it might be] by
grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed;
not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which
is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
17. (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many
nations,) before him whom he believed, [even] God, who
quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not
as though they were.
18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become
the father of many nations, according to that which was
spoken, So shall thy seed be.
19 And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own
body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old,
neither yet the deadness of Sara's womb:
20 He staggered not at the promise of God through
unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;
21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised,
he was able also to perform.
22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
23. Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was
imputed to him;
24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we
believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
Salvation in the OT was also by faith, the works of the law came after
faith. All those OT fellows who did physical exploits for God did it in
faith and as a result of faith, faith without works is dead.
1. Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with
God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace
wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
3 And not only [so], but we glory in tribulations also:
knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
4 And patience, experience; and experience, hope:
5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is
shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given
6. For when we were yet without strength, in due time
Christ died for the ungodly.
7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet
peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we
were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, [are
they] all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
Who are the true Jews--OT quote.
9 For this [is] the word of promise, At this time will I
come, and Sara shall have a son.
10 And not only [this]; but when Rebecca also had
conceived by one, [even] by our father Isaac;
11 (For [the children] being not yet born, neither having
done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to
election might stand, not of works, but of him that
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I
Who are the true Jews--OT quote.
15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will
have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have
Characteristic of God is mercy--OT quote.
17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this
same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my
power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout
all the earth.
Characteristic of God is mercy--OT quote.
Scripture = OT.
25. As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people,
which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not
26 And it shall come to pass, [that] in the place where it
was said unto them, Ye [are] not my people; there shall they
be called the children of the living God.
27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number
of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a
remnant shall be saved:
28 For he will finish the work, and cut [it] short in
righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon
29 And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth
had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made
like unto Gomorrha.
Who are the children of Israel--OT quote.
29 Quoting OT prophets.
33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a
stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth
on him shall not be ashamed.
Prophecy of Christ--OT quote.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him
shall not be ashamed.
Scripture = OT.
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it
is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach
the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Praising those who spread the gospel--OT quote.
"it is written," OT, which Jesus quoted to resist the devil.
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias
saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
Jews have not obeyed the gospel--OT quote.
19 But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I
will provoke you to jealousy by [them that are] no people,
[and] by a foolish nation I will anger you.
20 But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them
that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked
not after me.
21 But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched
forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.
Gentiles and Jews, OT verses.
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot
ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh
intercession to God against Israel, saying,
3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down
thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have
reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed
the knee to [the image of] Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a
remnant according to the election of grace.
Example from the OT--OT quote.
8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the
spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears
that they should not hear;) unto this day.
9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a
trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:
10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and
bow down their back alway.
?? same as below?
16 For if the firstfruit [be] holy, the lump [is] also
[holy]: and if the root [be] holy, so [are] the branches.
17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou,
being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and
with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive
OT allusion (??) to holy objects touching things?
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written,
There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn
away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this [is] my covenant unto them, when I shall take
away their sins.
Prophecy of Israel's future salvation--OT quote.
10 [Be] kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly
love; in honour preferring one another;
11 Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving
12 Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing
instant in prayer;
13 Distributing to the necessity of saints; given to
Here's a list of kindness, love, servant's heart (preferring others),
serving God, rejoicing, hope, patience, tribulation, prayer, giving to
the needy, hospitality, etc, etc, and right in the middle is "not
slothful in business." What does that have to do with the gospel? Not
much, directly, but it is part of life which we are not supposed to
abandon. Also, if we are good in business, those we deal with will be
impressed with out hard work, honesty, entrepaneuership, creativity,
persistence, etc, and that will be a witness to them for Christ. Also,
that will generate capital for the spreading of the gospel. That is how
many things are. No, that's not why we are here, but those all have a
bearing to some degree on the gospel, and we can use them one way or
another for the gospel and /or for the kingdom of God, by indirectly
making it able to spread (having money), by making sure it is not
stopped by gov't (running for office, voting, organizing, writing laws,
ADD Romans 13:1
Render unto Caesar: our duty as a citizen is to do our duty as citizens:
vote, run the gov't, etc, ie, be involved in it!!
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the
ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to
There are many examples of Godly men in the Bible, both OT and NT who
"resisted the power," and did so with God's blessings and help.
Therefore, it is not possible that this is a blanket, absolute
statement, because we must search the scriptures, and compare scripture
Paul himself was not always subject to the higher powers--and when had
had the opportunity--he appealed either 1. to a higher power (Caesar),
2. or to a higher law (against slapping him or imprisoning him, etc 3.
if I remember correctly, to God's unwritten laws. But maybe not on
Peter did say we ought to obey God rather than men, although I don't
think that's quite the same thing as appealing to God's higher law.
In our country we have our beautiful history, Constitution, Dec of Ind,
and so on to appeal to when all else fails, and at the very least, US
citizens because of these things, have the right to and obligation to
disobey unconstitutional "powers" and "rulers".
Of course, our Const and Dec of Ind were based on the notion that these
things were universal truths available to everyone, and they were simply
writing down what was self-evidently true.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the
evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that
which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if
thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not
the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger
to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil.
Rulers bear the sword to kill the wicked and to make evil deeds scarce, but
don't forget we are obligated to wipe out the worshippers of Molech, or else
God will wipe us out. Wonder what you do when the gov't leads in the
worship of Molech? Ever heard of Ehud and his dagger? The obligation to
destroy evil and protect the innocent doesn't end with gov't, it begins
with us as individuals, and gov't is later in the chain.
4 Whatever the gov't is against is evil if (divine right of kings) is
true--including Christianity, being pro-life, etc.
If John MacArthur is correct (Divine Right), this verse means whatever
gov't does is good and right, but I know that's false. Rulers, also, are
answerable to God's laws, and since (Dec of Ind) our gov't rules with
the consent of the governed, if they don't do what's right, we have to
right to remove the old ones and set up new guards of our liberties.
1 The powers that be are ordained of God. Certainly they are, but what
does it mean, ordained? The family is also ordained of God, but that
doesn't mean that every act of a family is ordained of God, for example,
a father may molest his children, and he could say, hey, well, I'm the
head of my home and they are all supposed to obey me; but he is not
ordained to sin. The church is also ordained of God, but that doesn't
mean that every act or doctrine of the church is ordained of God--I
doubt if anyone thinks the heresies of the various apostate branches of
the church are ordained of God, neither are the likes of the
Inquisition, the Crusades, and what not. Likewise, while government in
general may be ordained of God, every act of government and every
government official and even each individual government is not ordained
of God. They may well be, and very often are completely contrary to
everything which is Biblical and Godly and true and good, and we have a
duty to deal with them as such, and restore righteousness by whatever
Biblical means necessary.
17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but
righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
It is also not guns. There are just a means to an end, and are tools for
us to do God's work: forwarding the kingdom of God and resisting the
kingdom of the devil and the world and sin (rape, murder, theft,
20 For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed
[are] pure; but [it is] evil for that man who eateth with
For guns destroy not the work of God--don't flash your AR if it will
offend your brother or harm a weak Christian.
21 [It is] good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine,
nor [any thing] whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is
offended, or is made weak.
Don't eat in his presence if it will harm his faith, and don't discuss
or use guns in his presence in an offensive manner (unless necessary)
for the same reasons. Naturally, he does need to learn God's truth on
the matter. We need to share the truth in love.
3 For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is
written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on
Prophecy of Christ--OT quote.
4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were
written for our learning, that we through patience and
comfort of the scriptures might have hope.
OT= for learning, patience, comfort, hope.
8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the
circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises
[made] unto the fathers:
Christ came to confirm the promise made unto the Jews' forefathers--OT
9 And that the Gentiles might glorify God for [his] mercy;
as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee
among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name.
10 And again he saith, Rejoice, ye Gentiles, with his
11 And again, Praise the Lord, all ye Gentiles; and laud
him, all ye people.
12 And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of
Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in
him shall the Gentiles trust.
Prophecies of Christ. "Written," "again."
21 But as it is written, To whom he was not spoken of,
they shall see: and they that have not heard shall
OT quote about Christ.
27 It hath pleased them verily; and their debtors they
are. For if the Gentiles have been made partakers of their
spiritual things, their duty is also to minister unto them
in carnal things.
IT is sometimes a duty to minister and help people carnally as well as
spiritually--the NT isn't just about spiritual things, but whenever the
need arises, it is our duty to deal with the non-spiritual matters and
meet the needs of our brothers in Christ--defense and safety is a
non-spiritual need, if it is possible at all to differentiate between
31 That I may be delivered from them that do not believe
in Judaea; and that my service which [I have] for Jerusalem
may be accepted of the saints;
Resisting evil by prayer.
1. I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant
of the church which is at Cenchrea:
2 That ye receive her in the Lord, as becometh saints, and
that ye assist her in whatsoever business she hath need of
you: for she hath been a succourer of many, and of myself
Mentions the need to conduct non-spiritual business.
25. Now to him that is of power to stablish you according
to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according
to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret
since the world began,
26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the
prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting
God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
The mystery of Christ is now made evident by the scriptures (OT =
scriptures) of the prophets.
1 Corinthians 1:31
31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let
him glory in the Lord.
1 Corinthians 1:31
"As it is written", OT quote?
Our joys are in Christ. Not our victories, struggles, battles, guns,
etc--we may have joy from them, but our highest joy and calling is
1 Corinthians 2:9
9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard,
neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which
God hath prepared for them that love him.
1 Corinthians 2:9
"As it is written", OT quote?
1 Corinthians 3:19-20
19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God.
For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own
20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise,
that they are vain.
1 Corinthians 3:19-20
OT quotes--God is wise, man is foolish
1 Corinthians 5:5
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of
the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the
1 Corinthians 5:5
There may be times when God isn't interested in preserving us or keeping
us safe from harm--if we give ourselves to sin, he may allow harm or
even work to bring it about to bring us to repentence, he may prevent us
from successfully defending ourselves either physically and/or
spiritually, or he may allow harm to us as he did with Paul to keep him
(thorn in side) humbled, or as in Paul's case, just in the usual course
of events while serving Christ (beaten, stoned, etc), or so we can be a
witness to others (that was one of the things that occurred when Stephen
was stoned), to accomplish a task (Jesus came to be a sacrifice, it took
his death and suffering to accomplish it), to comform us to his image
and make us more Christ like he may do that to knock off the rough
spots, weaknesses, etc, or it may just be he wants to give us more depth
of character, cause us to have our focus more on him, to make us
stronger (hard times toughen you up), to give us experiences (ie,
suffering) similar to others so we can be more empathetic to them and
help them through their suffering, to give us more hate for sin and evil
and the devil and the world and how these all work together to destroy
and despoil and corrupt all that God has made to be good.
The bottom line is, our physical safety and security is decidedly and
emphatically not God's highest calling for our lives, any more than us
being happy is his highest priority for us, although it is part of
1 Corinthians 6:16
16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot
is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
1 Corinthians 6:16
1 Corinthians 7:19
19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing,
but the keeping of the commandments of God.
1 Corinthians 7:19
What commandments? OT ones?
This was written to non-Jews. See other refs in this book (Corinth) to
1 Corinthians 9:7
7 Who goeth a warfare any time at his own charges? who
planteth a vineyard, and eateth not of the fruit thereof? or
who feedeth a flock, and eateth not of the milk of the
1 Corinthians 9:7
Mentions warfare as just another part of business, just like planting,
reaping, tending flocks, eating and drinking.
1 Corinthians 9:8-9
8 Say I these things as a man? or saith not the law the
9 For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not
muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth
God take care for oxen?
1 Corinthians 9:8-9
Quotes the law and says it was for our sake that at least this one part
was given--and this law (even though Christ fulfilled the law) is still
important now--and the OT still has bearing on our lives, and the
principles contained in it are valid and important. He says it was
"written for our sakes..no doubt"
This is also important because it points out those doing the work of
Christ have to take care of their physical needs--in fact, while the
oxen is treading the corn, he munches. The physical things of life go
along together with the spiritual things. Just like you do Christ's
work, go to a job, work around the house, take care of your children,
defend your family and country from enemies foreign and domestic
1 Corinthians 9:11
11 If we have sown unto you spiritual things, [is it] a
great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?
1 Corinthians 9:11
The spiritual and the carnal (physical) go together--you can't live on
spiritual things alone--this includes eating, drinking (4) and being
married (5), and being supported in return for preaching (6) and in
general, reaping the physical/carnal benefits of the work you do (7),
and the law says the same thing (9). And so, the kingdom of God is not
meat nor drink,, but they are still very much part of God's plan for his
people, and meat, drink, and other carnal things are part of carrying
out Christ's commands and are part of spreading the gospel--which is
precisely what Paul is pointing out here in some detail. (13) Is a
further example from the OT where the spiritual is supported by the
physical, and (14) just as the OT priests live, so it is with the NT
God prospered their physical/carnal efforts with physical/carnal things,
and God set things up so the priests would benefit from them. Just like
God can prosper other physical things and put them to use for his people
and for his kingdom, including weapons and physical force.
1 Corinthians 9:13
13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy
things live [of the things] of the temple? and they which
wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
1 Corinthians 9:13
A further OT example, showing that the OT examples contain examples that
we are to follow, at least in the principles embodied in them.
1 Corinthians 10:4,6-9,11-12
1 Corinthians 10:4
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they
drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that
Rock was Christ.
1 Corinthians 10:6-9
6. Now these things were our examples, to the intent we
should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
7 Neither be ye idolaters, as [were] some of them; as it
is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose
up to play.
8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them
committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also
tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
1 Corinthians 10:11-12
11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples:
and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends
of the world are come.
12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed
lest he fall.
1 Corinthians 10:4,6-9,11-12
The things of the OT were our examples, in this case, so we should not
lust, commit idolatry, fornication (10 Commandments), tempt Christ
(9,4), murmur. Again he says they were for our examples (12) because of
what happened to them?? watch out lest the same happen to you.
1 Corinthians 10:13
13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is
common to man: but God [is] faithful, who will not suffer
you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the
temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to
1 Corinthians 10:13
Doing our part to receive God's promise--God makes a way for us to escape
temptation, we have to take it, or else we will fall, and it will be no fault
but out own if we fall, because we failed to do our part that God left to us;
Doing what his word says = accepting the provisions he has made for us. If we
do not accept his provisions, we are rejecting his help, and will fall.
(huh?) Displeasing to God, harmful to us--unless the benefit to his
kingdom is greater than the harm to us.
1 Corinthians 14:8
8 For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall
prepare himself to the battle?
1 Corinthians 14:8
Ref to war as if it were a normal part of life and no big deal and
nothing for NT people to avoid like the plague.
TRUMPET--another war word.
It is basically a continuation of the OT references, comparisons,
analogies, etc to war in the OT, it was part of their lives, and no big
1 Corinthians 14:34-35
34. Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is
not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded]
to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their
husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in
1 Corinthians 14:34-35
Another principle of the law that is still in effect.
This has nothing to do with the gospel. (Which is to say, there are
things in the NT that are not directly related to the gospel. Some would
argue that only things related to the gospel are our business any more,
and that excludes anything to do with weapons and their use, but it is
clear that there are things in the NT that are not directly connected to
the gospel, although indirectly, everything we do is related to it, and
we can't forget Eccl, which says at the end that to enjoy our labors is
God's will for us, and those labors under the sun aren't just spreading
1 Corinthians 16:1
1. Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have
given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.
1 Corinthians 16:1
Here is something the entire church was doing that was not related to
"spiritual" things--they were caring for the physical needs of the
1 Corinthians 16:13
13. Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, quit you like men,
1 Corinthians 16:13
Quoting the Philistines when they were fighting Israel, admonishing them
to not act like women, but to fight and not be shaken/upset/disquieted
about the enemy's advantage.
A counter argument might be that, yes, he was quoting soldiers fighting
a physical battle, but now they were "fighting" for the gospel, they had
exchanged their physical swords for spiritual ones.
2 Corinthians 1:8-11
8 For we would not, brethren, have you ignorant of our
trouble which came to us in Asia, that we were pressed out
of measure, above strength, insomuch that we despaired even
9 But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we
should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the
10 Who delivered us from so great a death, and doth
deliver: in whom we trust that he will yet deliver [us];
11 Ye also helping together by prayer for us, that for the
gift [bestowed] upon us by the means of many persons thanks
may be given by many on our behalf.
2 Corinthians 1:8-11
Remember it is God who rescues from death, and prayer is the most
powerful means, and without prayer and God's help everything else is
useless. In this case no use of force is mentioned--it was all God's
Even when we are completely out numbered, out gunned, surrounded, out of
bullets, the enemy has sworn to take no prisoners, we have no escape or
hope, then we learn to trust in God and to surrender ourselves and our
futures and our outcomes to God--this might come in handy when we are
under attack from all sides and above and it all looks lost--we cry out
to God for mercy and fight valiantly for God, our homes, our lands, our
wives, and our children (Neh).
You cannot use one part of scripture to negate another part of scripture
unless the circumstances of the negation are clearly pointed out, else
you are saying that the scriptures are contradictory--which is not true.
Instead, you must harmonize what scripture says, and compare scripture
with scripture to develop the complete and accurate meaning, and the
whole picture, instead of just one little part.
2 Corinthians 11:20-21
20 For ye suffer, if a man bring you into bondage, if a
man devour [you], if a man take [of you], if a man exalt
himself, if a man smite you on the face.
21 I speak as concerning reproach, as though we had been
weak. Howbeit whereinsoever any is bold, (I speak
foolishly,) I am bold also.
2 Corinthians 11:20-21
List criticism and such, but not bodily harm, not really relevant, it seems,
but might because so don't forget persecutions of Paul, who didn't fight.
20 "bondage" = slavery, servitude.
2 Corinthians 11:33
33 And through a window in a basket was I let down by the
wall, and escaped his hands.
2 Corinthians 11:33
Escaping--one of the lowest levels of resistance to violent tyranny.
2 Corinthians 13:1
1. This [is] the third [time] I am coming to you. In the
mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be
2 Corinthians 13:1
OT quote--using a principle of the OT to make a point that is presently
11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of
God, [it is] evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law,
being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed [is]
every one that hangeth on a tree:
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He
saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to
thy seed, which is Christ.
22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that
the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them
OT quote--a verse that is still true
22 scripture (??)
21. Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not
hear the law?
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one
by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he [who was] of the bondwoman was born after the
flesh; but he of the freewoman [was] by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two
covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to
bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth
to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the
mother of us all.
27 For it is written, Rejoice, [thou] barren that bearest
not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the
desolate hath many more children than she which hath an
28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted
him [that was born] after the Spirit, even so [it is] now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the
bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall
not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the
bondwoman, but of the free.
Uses the OT to make a point about the law--even though he is speaking to
those who desire to be under the law and is using the scripture for
their benefit, it's still a valid point for those who don't want to be
under the law. The interesting thing is he makes a valid point that is
true today by using the law that is not valid today--and yet the examples
are there for us, and the principles are still true for us.
1. Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ
hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised,
Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised,
that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you
are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of
righteousness by faith.
6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any
thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
These people were trying to use circumcision to obtain grace and
Nobody I know is trying to use weapons to obtain salvation or grace,
except maybe for physical "salvation" as David speak of.
14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in
this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
(Leviticus 19:18, Matthew 7:12,22:39)
This is an OT quote and Jesus said it also, and this, if done properly,
contains all the law, and if I will defend myself, I must also defend my
neighbor. If I would do it for myself, I must do it for my neighbor.
8 This persuasion [cometh] not of him that calleth you.
He is not saying if you do things for your flesh (body) you will reap
corruption, ie protect yourself, but if you sow to the flesh (sinful
nature, old man, etc), which he was talking about in Galatians
1. Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are
spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness;
considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of
3 For if a man think himself to be something, when he is
nothing, he deceiveth himself.
4 But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he
have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.
5 For every man shall bear his own burden.
(esp 2,5) Whatever is burdening our brother, we should help him, but, a
man needs to prove his work, so in that sense the man needs to bear his
own burden. If defense is included in this, we should defend our
brother, but also the brother should be able to defend himself. But
perhaps that is taking it a little too far.
10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto
all [men], especially unto them who are of the household of
If we have the opportunity we should do good for everyone, esp brothers.
If it is in our power, we MUST do it. Now, "good" does not include just
"spiritual" things, but includes food and drink and other things like
29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not
only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
Our lot is to suffer for Christ's sake--not sure how to reconcile this
with the other; we can be heavily armed and still suffer a lot for
Christ. The Jews of Esther's time suffered for Christ's sake (the devil
wanted to wipe them all out so Christ couldn't come) (they wept and were
sad and full of anguish, then they had to exert themselves a great deal
to kill all those people) and yet they were heavily armed and vigorously
defended themselves and other innocent people (Jews, in this case).
3 [Let] nothing [be done] through strife or vainglory; but
in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than
4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also
on the things of others.
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to
be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the
form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself,
and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given
him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of
[things] in heaven, and [things] in earth, and [things]
under the earth;
11 And [that] every tongue should confess that Jesus
Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
It is easy, being armed, having some power and being strong, to be cocky
or proud or have an attitude like Rambo or like any of the tough guy
movie characters, who have no humility. We are to remember we are
humbled servants (let thy servants fight, go take off his head, etc),
that the glory goes to God, that God will likewise exalt us (later) if
we humble ourselves to him now. That does not mean (hope this book will
convey more than just what the Bible says about weapons, but also what
our attitude is supposed to be, with or without them: a servant's heart,
to serve others in humility, in submission to God, etc) we humble
ourselves or submit ourselves before evil, although it does seem that
that happened sometimes in the scripture.
Perhaps that is the crux, we don't have to submit to evil. We don't
submit to the evil of sickness, if we have medicine, and yet we are
often sick, and commend ourselves into God's hands--and still resist the
best we are able.
4 Must help others, love and defend neighbor and brethren as self.
3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the
spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence
in the flesh.
4. Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any
other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in
the flesh, I more:
5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, [of]
the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching
the law, a Pharisee;
6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the
righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss
We have no confidence in the flesh, unlike the TV/movie gun-toting
heros, our confidence, hope, trust is in God, not ourselves or our guns
or our abilities and talents, all of which were given to us by God.
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